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    My first 99 was a hybrid MA/traps sin. Relied on tiger and cobra strikes for single target and used death sentry's to explode the corpses and deal area damage. This was before synergies were introduced into the game though and before they completely fucked the cow level for leveling/mfing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoobi View Post
    My first 99 was a hybrid MA/traps sin. Relied on tiger and cobra strikes for single target and used death sentry's to explode the corpses and deal area damage. This was before synergies were introduced into the game though and before they completely fucked the cow level for leveling/mfing.
    I stopped at 89 I think, when it got really slow but I was the same thing. Tiger on dragon... flight? The TP kick.
    Nowadays when people start to get killed by fireballs, no one says they need to dodge the fireball anymore; they say they need to go get a fire resist ring and some ice damage so they don't have to.

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    Nice informational video.

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    lol. Started watching the video and said to myself "so they're doing a d2jsp themselves" then at 5:00 comes that very comment.

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    Speaking of the cow level... how many hours/days after release do you think until someone finds it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garal View Post
    Speaking of the cow level... how many hours/days after release do you think until someone finds it?
    Seconds... there will probably be a joke on the new version of the TP tome's flavor text, or some demon called 'wart covered zombie' with a peg leg in the first zone.
    Nowadays when people start to get killed by fireballs, no one says they need to dodge the fireball anymore; they say they need to go get a fire resist ring and some ice damage so they don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ofrm1 View Post
    Yeah... I give it 2 weeks after release before someone has a offline hack of it running.

    If they can hack private servers for CoD:MW2 within 24 hours of release, they'll hack the hell out of this game.
    It probably uses the same login setup as starcraft II, which means it will probably happen hours after the game is released, or earlier if someone gets their hands on copy early.

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    I'm also reading stuff about the skill point system being dumped in favor of runes and a GW style 'bring up to 6 skills' (down from 7 previously).
    Nowadays when people start to get killed by fireballs, no one says they need to dodge the fireball anymore; they say they need to go get a fire resist ring and some ice damage so they don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ero Elohim View Post
    The only downside I see is that rare uniques and such will have an actual dollar value attached now. How pissed will you be when that Windforce drops that you know you can get $20 for and everyone in the game will scramble to nab it? It ruins the cooperative spirit of the game, which means I'll likely only co-op with friends instead of random strangers.
    In Diablo III when items drop, you only see and can pick up items that drop for you. Gold is shared. All campaign games are Co-Op and you are automatically in the party when you log into a game or server. The only PvP will be on specific Arena style maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VKhaun View Post
    I'm also reading stuff about the skill point system being dumped in favor of runes and a GW style 'bring up to 6 skills' (down from 7 previously).
    Yep, Jay Wilson said that 6 skills makes players needing to make more choices in regards to what skills they bring. In addition to that, you'll be able to swap out said 6 skills(and 3 passive skills) at any time. Kind of dumbs down the game imo, don't have to plan what you want to use at all. I hope the rune system that they want to implement gets put in, although he said at the press event last week that if the new proposed system doesn't work they'll just go back to the one they're using now because it does work, it's just not as good of an idea as the proposed.

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    I like the GW style choice of skills, DII best builds for some classes made the early game very boring because you had to save points for the later skills.

    The real money AH is a major turn off, Ill probably just single play it once I wont invest my limited gaming time into a cash for items game. Online games sure are taking a nasty turn with this cash = gear shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taoist View Post
    I like the GW style choice of skills, DII best builds for some classes made the early game very boring because you had to save points for the later skills.

    The real money AH is a major turn off, Ill probably just single play it once I wont invest my limited gaming time into a cash for items game. Online games sure are taking a nasty turn with this cash = gear shit.
    I think the AH is fucking amazing. I was worried that this was going to turn into some horrible experiment gone wrong, but they've really thought about it. That, and you can just use the gold AH if you don't want to spend real money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taoist View Post
    I like the GW style choice of skills, DII best builds for some classes made the early game very boring because you had to save points for the later skills.

    The real money AH is a major turn off, Ill probably just single play it once I wont invest my limited gaming time into a cash for items game. Online games sure are taking a nasty turn with this cash = gear shit.
    Play hardcore, no real money auction house on hardcore.

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    I love the real money AH. Playing with the AH market on WoW is one of my favorite ways to make money. On my server I've basically inflated the price of embersilk by 100% but it's so high in demand (and low in supply) that people still buy it. Make 2k gold every day or two by taking 5 mins to resell other people's shit? Fucking smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoobi View Post
    Play hardcore, no real money auction house on hardcore.
    You don't even have to do that from what I hear. Even softcore characters will have a gold AH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ofrm1 View Post
    I think the AH is fucking amazing. I was worried that this was going to turn into some horrible experiment gone wrong, but they've really thought about it. That, and you can just use the gold AH if you don't want to spend real money.
    I still don't think anything good will ever be on the gold AH. I don't see why any high demand/low supply item would find it's way there. If you know people will pay real money, and the item WILL sell, why would you sell it for gold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ofrm1 View Post
    You don't even have to do that from what I hear. Even softcore characters will have a gold AH.
    I know that, but I don't feel like going up against some douche in pvp that only beats me because he paid $1000 for his gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valec View Post
    I still don't think anything good will ever be on the gold AH. I don't see why any high demand/low supply item would find it's way there. If you know people will pay real money, and the item WILL sell, why would you sell it for gold?
    Depends on how rare certain items are. I know a while back, there was talk that they wanted to avoid the hyper-rarity of certain Diablo II items (Zod runes, etc.) If rare items are still feasible to get and free listings for the Cash AH are limited enough, I can see people putting rare items up for gold.

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    Let me also throw in, that the game may have enough crap that you require an AH presence to get anything. You may want to sell items for gold instead of money, simply so you can combine your profits with your in-game gold and actually buy something. If you got the equivalent amount of cash for that item you would not have anything in-game to combine that cash with to be able to afford things. You would just have to shell out more money and eliminate your profit. Maybe a year or two from now when people are max level and have the top gear you'll see people farming and selling stuff for cash. I bet twink items especially will definitely be in there for real cash only.

    Besides, just like the blowup over EVE... nothing says this is permanent.
    If it destroys their economy or everyone only uses one or the other system, then you just make a change later.



    And is anyone else confused by Taoist talking about this?
    Last I heard he was sitting on tons of money and a good job, loved to win, and was a prime candidate for hardcore characters where it wouldn't matter anyway.
    Last edited by VKhaun; 08-04-2011 at 07:40 PM.
    Nowadays when people start to get killed by fireballs, no one says they need to dodge the fireball anymore; they say they need to go get a fire resist ring and some ice damage so they don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VKhaun View Post
    And is anyone else confused by Taoist talking about this?
    Last I heard he was sitting on tons of money and a good job, loved to win, and was a prime candidate for hardcore characters where it wouldn't matter anyway.
    Funny, very well then. Yes I have a few hundred thousand in investments and savings. Yet I fail to see how that has anything to do with this topic. My ability to spend money has nothing to do with enjoying a level playing field on the games I play.

    I am competitive, it’s not the same as buying wins or cheating to win not that I expect anyone to understand these concepts, sportsmanship, hard work, personal pride and integrity are dying.

    Now everyone rage because I confirmed I have money and insinuated a lack of sportsmanship and integrity in the general population.

    DIII is mostly a pve game like the two before it, hardcore pve is boring in all games. PvP competitive is not the same as pve gear monkeys/boss raiding competitive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taoist View Post

    insinuated a lack of sportsmanship and integrity in the general population.
    Don't know how anyone could rage at you for this because it's entirely true. As for money, jealousy is a horrible thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoobi View Post
    I know that, but I don't feel like going up against some douche in pvp that only beats me because he paid $1000 for his gear.
    You're going to have that either way with 3rd party item providers. It's not as if the gear that he's purchasing can only be bought with money. Those will be items that are capable of being MF'd in the game.
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    I'm iffy about anything that involves in game items for cash but this doesn't really seem so bad. It's not like Blizzard is selling an endless supply of stone of jordans. This is the exact thing that takes place through ebay/etc except that it's done in game so it's safer for the players that are buying.

    I hate to side with the makers of World of Warcrapp but this seems like it may actually be more of a service to the population. Blizzard will make some dough on the side, but it's not like handling all that real world money has no overhead cost.

    The only thing I'd be concerned about is paying 10 bucks for that ring (which I would never do anyway) and then getting the in game message "A duplicate item has been destroyed".
    "Nah man, a Paladin has to play fair and by the rules. Do you really see Silly not attacking a weakened opponent? Or rather, not exploiting a weakness to take an enemy down? He'd totally do that. It's the law of the jungle with Silly, even if he does have faith. I think he's principled, just not merciful." - Zavon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillywilly View Post
    I'm iffy about anything that involves in game items for cash but this doesn't really seem so bad. It's not like Blizzard is selling an endless supply of stone of jordans. This is the exact thing that takes place through ebay/etc except that it's done in game so it's safer for the players that are buying.

    I hate to side with the makers of World of Warcrapp but this seems like it may actually be more of a service to the population. Blizzard will make some dough on the side, but it's not like handling all that real world money has no overhead cost.

    The only thing I'd be concerned about is paying 10 bucks for that ring (which I would never do anyway) and then getting the in game message "A duplicate item has been destroyed".
    They said that they were hoping to break even off of the system. That could be a total lie, but I doubt they'll make tons off of the system.

    Duping I don't see to be a real issue with this game. Blizzard has definitely learned their lesson with dupes, hacks and fake items in the last game. I avidly remember my friend literally making dozens of sojs in a couple minute's time. That kind of hacking we'll never see again from blizzard. Warden would catch it in a second. If anything, it'll be the "let's bonewall the entire throne of destruction, then slow-missile an amazon while she throws poison javelins at the bonewalls to lag the game out."

    Still miss my ith sword, white ring and strength gloves, lol.
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    You are an idiot if you think the game will have dupes and cheats, aside from the occasional bug/exploit that gets canned like every other game.
    You are an idiot if you think the in-game store and real money usage is bad for the game. Or you are just a broke loser who works at McDonald's who wants to live above their means. Or you live in China and are upset you can't be a gold farmer in D3.
    You are an idiot if you think the game should have any form of single player. No one cares about you and if you have bad internet, want to play at work, live in Bumfuck Egypt with high latency, etc. The other 98% of us would rather have a game that doesn't have hacked client-side data and pirated shit.


    In conclusion, most of you are idiots.

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