NSFBH: Post about Norway and rape rates....

[Sillywilly]

Some of you may remember that I posted earlier saying Norwegians blame foreigners for the surge in rape rates, particularly Muslim immigrants are blamed. You may also remember I said from my experiences and various sources that weren't quite able to piece together a full picture, that I believed there was some fishy statistics at work. I said there is too little convictions and too little rape cases make it to court in Norway and that with Norwegians being hung up on maintaining fake appearances (called the Hycanith effect by many ex-Norwegians) that I suspected some douchefaggery in there somewhere.

An institute that specializes in the treatment of rape victims has let the cat out of the bag.

http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/03/...s-toward-rape/

Muslims and foreigners do not make up all the rape cases in Norway, they make up all the CONVICTED rape cases in Norway. There is a very important difference there that is pointed out in the article.

-----that the vast majority of rapes in Norway are carried out by ethnic Norwegian men against women with whom they’re acquainted. Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reports that many assaults involve domestic violence, date rape or party rape, according to the study.

-----The demographics of the majority of attackers differ sharply from widely held beliefs that rapists tend to be foreign immigrants. In fact, reports NRK, such attacks account for only around 18 percent of the rapes reported in Norway.

-----Police statistics show that between 8,000 and 16,000 persons are raped in Norway every year. Police in Oslo are still dealing with 96 random street rapes in the capital last year, a new record, according to newspaper Aften. While many of the random rapes, called overfallsvoldtekter in Norwegian, were linked to foreign attackers and set off widespread alarm last year, they make up a tiny percentage of the total number of rapes in the country.

-----Only 1 percent of those charged with rape actually are convicted in Norway, reported Dagsavisen, with police dropping fully 80 percent of reported rape cases because of lack of evidence.

-----Newspaper Dagsavisen reported earlier this month that the UN’s committee on women has sharply criticized Norway for its failure to prosecute many accused rapists, its high rate of acquittals and the mild punishments convicted rapists actually get. Amnesty International supports a UN call for new, tougher rape laws in Norway that would be more in line with what Amnesty calls “international human rights standards.”

[Zavon]

Only problem is I'm ok with pretty much anything anti-muslim

[Sillywilly]

Only problem is I'm ok with pretty much anything anti-muslim

lol can't argue with that.

[Graveworm]

Only problem is I'm ok with pretty much anything anti-muslim

I was just thinking this morning how strange it is that you are by far my least favorite mod on this forum, even with Sillywilly being a mod, but then I remembered that you are just as retarded as he is and don't have the occasional breakthrough of rational thought that he does.

[Zavon]

That is pretty strange considering I piss gravy and shit mashed potatoes.

Either way, that is actually like an awesome compliment coming from the biggest douche I've ever seen.

[Bragi]

Just one more reason to kill all the white people.

[Zoobi]

Only problem is I'm ok with pretty much anything anti-muslim

This is the most insane retardation I've seen on this forum. I do in fact hope you're just trolling.

[Norska]

I'm down for killing all the white people.

Irish still counts as niggers, right?

[Valec]

I'm down for killing all the white people.

Irish still counts as niggers, right?

Not really since they are the police now.

[Zavon]

Le course I was being sarcastic

[Dumah]

While I happen to be against religion in general (maybe even slightly moreso Islam than others), doesn't that kind of angry response compound the notion that the "Religion of Peace" is exclusively above criticism?

[Zavon]

While I happen to be against religion in general (maybe even slightly moreso Islam than others), doesn't that kind of angry response compound the notion that the "Religion of Peace" is exclusively above criticism?

No, I think they were just being all whiny pants because I jokingly implied that it was ok to label all Muslim as rapey, just because I hate Muslims.


Edit: Not that I don't think there are a lot of fucked up things about middle eastern culture.

[Boxy Brown]

No, I think they were just being all whiny pants because I jokingly implied that it was ok to label all Muslim as rapey, just because I hate Muslims.


Edit: Not that I don't think there are a lot of fucked up things about middle eastern culture.

That there most certainly are, and for the record I hate pretty much any religion except Judaism. But I do believe that to think that we're on top in this universe is incredibly naive. There is almost certainly at least one omnipotent, omnipresent being out there in the vastness of the universe. Shit, there are probably a bunch of them. Whether or not they created life on earth and elsewhere, and whether or not they demand our worship is irrelevant. That being said, it's my belief that religion is just an invention of man used for power and control, nothing more, nothing less.

[Valec]

I'll be honest. I don't really care what happens in Norway, nor is it my benchmark for how people behave in general.

I mean, for all we know, the women were dressed in such a way that they were asking for it. We simply don't have all the facts.

[Boxy Brown]

I mean, for all we know, the women were dressed in such a way that they were asking for it. We simply don't have all the facts.

You're trolling, right?

[Valec]

You're trolling, right?

...Are you?

[Mute]

Come on guys, joking about Norway isn't funny.

[dr.wang]

Silly would beat a dead horse in the hopes that it would wake up so he can continue arguing with it.

[Sillywilly]

You're trolling, right?

Actually 25% of Norwegians still believe that a girl can be at fault for being raped because of the way she was dressed, etc. From the article:

Fully 25 percent of Norwegians questioned also believe that rape victims are at least partly responsible in such incidents, also if they’re wearing provocative or revealing clothing.

It really makes my butt hurt to hear people talk about how "progressive" and advanced the Scandinavians are when the truth is that their mentalities are 50 years behind anything remotely resembling 1st world civilization.

Take for example the following statistics:

Police statistics show that between 8,000 and 16,000 persons are raped in Norway every year.

That's from the article I've already posted.

But consider the articles I posted in the past on this subject. Norwegian Press is claiming that every single rape in like Oslo, (the capital) Norway since 2009 up to 2011 has been by non-Norwegian men. It's true that all rape CONVICTIONS have been non-Norwegians.

But if 82% of rape charges brought to the police are against native Norwegian men, and the police statistics say that between 8 to 16k women are raped in Norway a year, then lets do some math:

Lets go half way and say 12k is the average. (8 to 16k). So 12k rapes per year, over the last 3 years is 36k rapes. 82% (charges against Norwegian men) of 36k is 29, 520.

So over the past 3 years in Norway 29,520 Norwegian men had rape charges filed against them in the country. Every statistic I can find says 9 out of 10 convicted are non-western men. Which means asian or middle eastern. There are also eastern europes to be considered in those statistics but for the moment lets assume that 1 out of 10 is a Norwegian man that is convicted.

That means approx 8 out of 10 rape charges are brought against Norwegian men and only 1 out of 10 convictions are Norwegian men.

That blows my mother fucking mind. We're talking about a country of 4.5 million upper middle class caucasians where you are essentially given free reign to rape the shit out of your fellow native females as long as you don't get completely and utterly sloppy with leaving evidence.

I have often wondered why Islam is so well accepted in Norway despite the violence and supposed rape rate, etc, yet any Norwegian you hear that wants to get racist or stereotype is going to bash on Jews, Christians or eastern block men. Muslims are allowed to pour into the country at an alarming rate yet Norway has tried to ban circumcision, etc just to piss off the Jewish people.

I'm still seeing if there is more evidence to support my hypothesis, but my hypothesis is that Islam is being more openly accepted by a male dominated Norwegian culture simply because Norwegians agree with Islam in part that men should have dominance over women and that a woman should not be allowed to set her will against the will of a man. At least that is how I would describe it after having several ex-Norwegians describe it to me. I am going to try and refine that statement as I collect data/facts but there is definitely something much more appalling going on under the surface here in this shit hole.

http://www.thelocal.no/page/view/new...ts-norway-rape

“One in ten Norwegian women over the age of 15 has been raped,” The New York Times has reported in an article seized upon by Norway’s media on Wednesday.

Silly would beat a dead horse in the hopes that it would wake up so he can continue arguing with it.

What about any of this information is a dead horse? This is entirely new data. And if it doesn't interest you, I did warn you with the title, so nobody forced you to minimize your min/maxing WoW youtube video in order to have you learn something about the world. You did it to yourself.

[Valec]

Have you considered the possibility that the Norwegian legal system is racist? Admittedly, Islam is a pretty fucked up religion that allows people to violate what we consider basic human rights, but still, the numbers seem a bit high.

I really don't know anything about the situation whatsoever and I hardly even read your last post(not as an insult, i'm just not that interested). Still, those numbers seem crazy.

[Sillywilly]

Have you considered the possibility that the Norwegian legal system is racist? Admittedly, Islam is a pretty fucked up religion that allows people to violate what we consider basic human rights, but still, the numbers seem a bit high.

I really don't know anything about the situation whatsoever and I hardly even read your last post(not as an insult, i'm just not that interested). Still, those numbers seem crazy.

I mean all I can do is go by the facts I'm given and the testimonies of people that do or have lived here.

I mean I'm sure they are racist. So lets say they are convicting muslims at a much higher rate based on race alone. That wouldn't surprise me. But my primary concern is that not even a fraction of the Norwegian men who have charges pressed against them are convicted. Apparently less than 40% of rape cases even go to court. That just seems like a great injustice and a severe violation of women's rights.

If I were just piecing this together myself I'd be far more skeptical. But even the United Nations has gotten involved at this point so I'm heavy inclined to think there is a huge underlying problem in this country with respect for women.

[Zavon]

Well I mean it is part of the heritage of norwegians to pillage and *rape*, right?

[Norska]

They say they got out of the rape business after the nazi's raped them.

They couldn't handle what they dished out.