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    Weekly roundup

    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    The Danish girl using pepper spray story is from a year and a half ago. Unless, there was another one exactly the same.
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    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zavon View Post
    The Danish girl using pepper spray story is from a year and a half ago. Unless, there was another one exactly the same.
    It is, it's come up again because she is finally going to court IIRC.
    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    Weekly roundup

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    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    What I think is really funny about the whole white privilege issue, is that if it's real, the easiest way to get rid of it is to have a white only country.
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    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    What I think is really funny about the whole white privilege issue, is that if it's real, the easiest way to get rid of it is to have a white only country.
    I know, right? I hate everything about Current Year.
    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    "Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one." ~ Voltaire

    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    Okay, Tucker is more awesome than Maher. I have no idea where he stands on the science, but this video made my heart sing and he picked his target perfectly. This knuckle head just could not get off his shallow feel-good message, and eventually just contradicted him.

    However I have no idea what Tucker talking about...

    I looked up the agreement and skimmed it looking for specifics, but there are none. It's this vague bullet list of "do what you can". There's some stuff in there about developed countries giving financial aid to developing ones, but there is no 100 billion in there with our name on it. This looks exactly like what the knuckle head said it was. A feel good measure to bring everyone to the table, agreeing to do whatever they can.

    WTF is he talking about giving billions to China?
    Nowadays when people start to get killed by fireballs, no one says they need to dodge the fireball anymore; they say they need to go get a fire resist ring and some ice damage so they don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VKhaun View Post


    Okay, Tucker is more awesome than Maher. I have no idea where he stands on the science, but this video made my heart sing and he picked his target perfectly. This knuckle head just could not get off his shallow feel-good message, and eventually just contradicted him.

    However I have no idea what Tucker talking about...

    I looked up the agreement and skimmed it looking for specifics, but there are none. It's this vague bullet list of "do what you can". There's some stuff in there about developed countries giving financial aid to developing ones, but there is no 100 billion in there with our name on it. This looks exactly like what the knuckle head said it was. A feel good measure to bring everyone to the table, agreeing to do whatever they can.

    WTF is he talking about giving billions to China?
    Yeah, Tucker is pretty dope imo. This segment is actually the stance of where most conservatives fall (myself included) on the global warming issue. No one is "denying the science". The climate is changing. Man almost certainly has something to do with it. The big question marks are:

    1. How much is it changing?
    2. How much is due to man?
    3. What do we do about it?

    These are the real points of contention for conservatives. The first two are science questions. There have been a lot of failed models, there has been falsified data. Furthermore, a climate is not an easy thing to study. There is chemistry involved, physics involved, geography involved, geology involved, meteorology involved, oceanography involved-- all separate disciplines that have to somehow come together to get a grasp on this issue. By the very nature of the difficulty of study, it is hard to make sincere proclamations with the usual scientific certainty (this is what that 10 year old "denier" paper was saying). And so, all of this taken together is what gives conservatives pause to *question* any "concrete" answer to the first two questions). Also, the alarmist frothing at the mouth of liberal mouthpieces makes answering these questions even more difficult to digest.

    All of which brings us to the third question, and the Paris Climate Accord. What that agreement said we can do about it is: Reduce our carbon emissions by 26% below 2006 (which due to new regulations would cost us millions of jobs, and lower our GDP by something like 150 billion dollars a year). It would also increase electricity costs for all Americans as much as like 20%, leaving not just America poorer but also Americans. This, all the while the other two major polluters (China and India) suffer no such regulations. In fact, we are supposed to not only take a kick in the nuts, but also shell out money to help those two countries get "up to speed" (of which, like all things, you can expect we would foot the most of the bill for). Finally, the other part of the agreement is that we would invest a shitload of money in "alternative fuel sources". Which is just another way of saying, "waste a lot of tax payer dollars on subsidizing startups".

    What would all of this economic loss gain us? A 1.5 temperature difference in 100 years or some shit like that (all of which of course depends on the cooperation of China, India and others down the road)? No fucking thanks, we can do better.

    TL;DR: From a political philosophy, Trump and conservatives are against increasing massive regulation (aka Obama era) because it hurts economic growth and the middle class, and fronting money to other countries because it increases globalization.
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    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    Rand Paul broke it down well. Z: It was .2 of 1 degree in 100 years IIRC.



    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    Yeah, wasn't Elon Musk set to receive something like 52 billion dollars in government subsidizing from this deal? I'd be mad as hell too.


    Also, just consider the graph below which is the earth's temperature and C02 levels over the course of millions of years. The earth is the coolest it has been in 65 million years. Consider the chart, and also consider that Man could have survived living on the planet during these times (well probably would have gotten eaten, but you get what I mean). This isn't super relevant to the issue, but I think it's interesting in a contextual sort of way.
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    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    Do you remember when the ACLU was a somewhat principled organization that took flak for things like defending the right of Nazis to hold a rally? Now they are so full of social justice koolaid they have no value.



    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    "Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one." ~ Voltaire

    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    lololol
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    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    2 Kings 2:23-24: "....Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

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    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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