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    Default Net Neutrality

    https://www.battleforthenet.com/

    What are the catacombs thoughts on this?

    Is it as severe as the website makes it sound?

    From what I understand it does seem like this would be an opportunity for these major cable companies to dictate what information you have reasonable access to.
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    Default Re: Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Sillywilly View Post
    https://www.battleforthenet.com/

    What are the catacombs thoughts on this?

    Is it as severe as the website makes it sound?

    From what I understand it does seem like this would be an opportunity for these major cable companies to dictate what information you have reasonable access to.
    It is fundamentally bad. People will spew stuff about 'killing competition' or 'we shouldn't be regulating business even more, let the market speak' bullshit, but the reality is that the majority of our internet infrastructure was built on government contracts/subsidies, through taxpayer funds, and all regulatory bodies that were created to protect consumers(tax-payers) have been captured by the ISP lobby. A lot of this actually occurs at the local govt level with non-compete contracts and deals between companies to create territorial 'monopolies'.

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    Soros is heavily pushing for net neutrality law so that control can be centralized under the government or an international org. As a general rule on complex topics, when in doubt I tend to choose the opposite of whatever Soros wants.

    The core issue is; should the ability to censor content and choose winners and losers continue to rest with private corporations (as it currently does), or should it rest with the government.

    A few common sense laws aimed at common carriers and tech giants could accomplish what I want. The Net neutrality folks want to take it way further than is necessary so that unelected officials have complete control. No matter who wins, we lose.

    So, I do support Net Neutrality? No. Do I think things are ok the way they are now? No.

    We need basic laws to prevent carriers and companies like Google/Facebook/Twitter from controlling markets and engaging in censorship and monopolistic behavior. The answer is not to give all of that control to the government or (worse) an international unelected clique. Nor is the answer to do nothing. These companies have become too powerful and disruptive to both markets and free speech to do nothing. The movement championed by Soros and co just sets the stage for turning the internet into govt and/or UN controlled agitprop. I'd rather have what we have now if those are my 2 choices. It's an artificial choice though.

    Nobody wants a chance to pass up more power, and it's why nothing is being fixed. The whole debate has been framed as a false binary choice between government regulating all aspects of the internet or doing nothing at all. So, shit sandwich or bukkake cream pie.

    The correct choice is to pass a couple of carefully crafted laws to address the issues and otherwise leave things alone, something our incompetent corrupted legislature is incapable of.

    /edit: I realize I just stated the same thing several different ways, I'm leaving it alone though. tldr - the "Net Neutrality" movement is full of shit, and so are the corporations pushing for no action at all. The language being used by advocates when describing things is misleading, often wrong, and intentionally obtuse so that plebians can't weigh in properly.
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    -=Related=-

    https://fee.org/articles/net-neutral...free-internet/

    https://mises.org/blog/net-neutralit...tes-corruption

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffrey.../#46a7dd3fdc8f

    This is the Soros position -->

    https://fee.org/articles/net-neutral...-the-internet/

    Quote Originally Posted by Soros Lackey in charge of Net Neutrality initiative
    "At the moment, the battle over network neutrality is not to completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies. We are not at that point yet. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control."
    Support net neutrality comrade, down with the bourgeois!
    "The argument that “people now have more freedom than ever” is based on the fact that we are allowed to do almost anything we please as long as it has no practical consequences."

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